Irish Nationalism - Genetics http://irish-nationalism.net/ Focusing on the genetic components of Ireland and the legacy of our past en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:03:59 GMT vBulletin 60 http://irish-nationalism.net/images/misc/rss.png Irish Nationalism - Genetics http://irish-nationalism.net/ First Irish genome sequenced http://irish-nationalism.net/showthread.php/13899-First-Irish-genome-sequenced?goto=newpost Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:26:14 GMT It appears that it is now official that the Irish are genetically too, a rara avis, i.e. a rare bird. I confess that the finding that the Irish are genetically distinct from the British (and I take it that they mean distinct enough), comes as a surprise to me. ---Quote--- *First Irish genome... It appears that it is now official that the Irish are genetically too, a rara avis, i.e. a rare bird.

I confess that the finding that the Irish are genetically distinct from the British (and I take it that they mean distinct enough), comes as a surprise to me.
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First Irish genome sequenced

New Scientist
September 08, 2010


THE Irish are genetically distinct from other Europeans – including their British neighbours. That's according to the first genome of an Irish person to be sequenced, which turns out to have a host of unusual genetic variations.

Brendan Loftus of University College Dublin, who led the team responsible, says the unnamed Irishman – whom a genotyping study had already shown to be representative of Ireland – possessed 400,000 novel mutations of single DNA bases. Nearly 8000 of these appear to be inherited along with genes known to influence disorders such as inflammatory bowel disease and liver disease, so the newly discovered mutations may help shed light on the genetic basis of these conditions.

As an outlying island, Ireland should hold some genetic surprises, Loftus says. Indeed, the genome was so distinctive it shows that "the Irish genome inhabits a hitherto unsampled region in European genome variation", he adds.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...sequenced.html
The published study is available as a provisional paper in pdf from http://genomebiology.com/content/pdf...0-11-9-r91.pdf ]]> Genetics Iberian http://irish-nationalism.net/showthread.php/13899-First-Irish-genome-sequenced <![CDATA[DNA test to Hitler's relatives shows 'Jewish' and 'African' roots]]> http://irish-nationalism.net/showthread.php/13750-DNA-test-to-Hitler-s-relatives-shows-Jewish-and-African-roots?goto=newpost Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:15:54 GMT The sensationalist-style news is apparently based on the finding of the E1b1b1 Y Chromosome haplogroup, which is most commonly found among the Amazigh (Berber) population of North Africa. To the best of my knowledge, it is not uncommon in Bavaria and (especially) in Austria. Defining E1b1b1 as... The sensationalist-style news is apparently based on the finding of the E1b1b1 Y Chromosome haplogroup, which is most commonly found among the Amazigh (Berber) population of North Africa. To the best of my knowledge, it is not uncommon in Bavaria and (especially) in Austria.

Defining E1b1b1 as simply 'African' is an oddity similar to defining the Asiatic, Uralic Y Chromosome haplogroup N1c1 as 'European', as this simplification leads people erronously to believe that it's related to Black Africans.

Another misleading bit here is to assume a Jewish link of the said haplogroup. This is usually said (also misleading) of the East Mediterranean J2 haplogroup, which is also not uncommon in the said regions of Austria and Bavaria.

So no surprise in the findings, given Hitler's Austro-Bavarian origins. But hardly a good interpretation.
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Hitler 'had Jewish and African roots', DNA tests show


Adolf Hitler may have had Jewish and African roots, DNA tests have shown

Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to the “subhuman” races that he tried to exterminate during the Holocaust.

Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the Fuhrer’s relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year.

A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.

"One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised," Mr Mulders wrote in the Belgian magazine, Knack.

Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

[...]His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ests-show.html
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